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Post by nameless on October 7th 2009, 4:45 pm

How do you stay in the present moment?

How can we ever be anywhere/anywhen else?
All there is, is Now!

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Re: How do you stay in the present moment?

Post by WhiteShaman on October 8th 2009, 8:42 am

nameless wrote:
How do you stay in the present moment?

How can we ever be anywhere/anywhen else?
All there is, is Now!


Personally, I think the new teachings of “being present” or “in the now” has lost their original intent and purpose and are now looked at in an imbalanced way by many.
Everyone knows instinctively what it means to be present in what you are doing and everyone knows the beauty and benefit of that but there most certainly is, a past and there most certainly is a future in this world or level of consciousness we live in.
We live in a reality where “time” exist. We live in a reality where “we” exist.
Time exists to us and is as real as anything else is real.
At some level, I am sure” time” has no purpose and does not exist but we are not there.
We are here and here, there is a past, a present and a future. All are significant and purposeful.

(In answer to your question, nameless,.........we "can" be "everywhere" and when we rise to that level, time will no longer exist or serve us anymore.)

Those are my thoughts anyways.

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Re: How do you stay in the present moment?

Post by Spirit-Being on October 8th 2009, 11:23 am

For me being in the present moment, is one i continuously struggle to achieve, thoughts get in the way. I know there is a past & a future that is obvious lol but i feel that the past was grade school and the future is college, the present is like a high school. I won't learn things in college until i first learn the things i need to in high school. But how many times do any of us continuously stay in the present moment and is it possible? I set goals for myself to be more spiritual, loving, compassionate, and to make better decisions down the road. This is a future event that i put my attention on i need to visualize this so that i can see it in my minds eye. This helps to bring it about. Now is this the right way to live life i can't answer that, should i just forget about any goals i have and dwell on the past of what i should of or could have have done? The present is where it starts for me and as long as i continue to progress along these expectations i hold for myself, then i will eventually achieve the goal i set out for myself. Now this goal i have does not come from just everyday ordinary things it is on a higher level my guidance that lets me know where and what i need to do to complete this life.

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Post by Vanilla2 on October 8th 2009, 12:36 pm

What is meant by "present moment/being present/In the now" does it mean we have come so far, and what we have learnt or achieved we are now contented with, and are happy to remain just so. Or does it refer to what is happening in our life at this very moment, whatever that may be, if this is the case, we have to move on, because life doesnt stand still, life carries on.

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Re: How do you stay in the present moment?

Post by WhiteShaman on October 8th 2009, 1:27 pm

It seems to mean something different to many people. To me it means being fluid and letting life happen while acting when inspired to act or changing when inspired to change or doing nothing when inspired to do nothing.
It is a way of trusting the oneness of all things and living like you realize you are interconnected to everything.
If life does not stand still, you move on with it because you are present and aware that it is moving on.
So if your not present, then you are unaware as to what the interconnectiveness of the universe is doing and how you fit into it all.
That’s what it means to me.
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Re: How do you stay in the present moment?

Post by nameless on October 8th 2009, 4:25 pm

WhiteShaman wrote:
nameless wrote:
How do you stay in the present moment?

How can we ever be anywhere/anywhen else?
All there is, is Now!


Personally, I think the new teachings of “being present” or “in the now” has lost their original intent and purpose and are now looked at in an imbalanced way by many.

I haven't a clue to what you refer by "the new teachings".
My experience is that I am never 'there' of 'then'. It is always Here! Now!

Everyone knows instinctively what it means to be present in what you are doing and everyone knows the beauty and benefit of that

Nope. I don't think that you can speak for everyone, and the evidence disputes your broad brushed assertion.

but there most certainly is, a past and there most certainly is a future in this world or level of consciousness we live in.

Perhaps "most certainly" for you...
'Memories' (in the Now!) do not equal 'the past' (although it appears so).
Science doesn't agree with you, by the way.
All moments of existence are synchronous, happening at the same moment.

"The Laws of Nature are not rules controlling the metamorphosis of what is, into what will be. They are descriptions of patterns that exist, all at once, in the whole Tapestry... The four-dimensional space-time manifold displays all eternity at once." - Genius; the Life and Science of Richard Feynman

And "we" don't live in a "level of Consciousness". "We" are all unique Conscious Perspectives. There is no general "level of consciousness we live in".

We live in a reality where “time” exist.

Sometimes this 'reality' is timeless.
You don't get to define 'reality' for anyone but yourself.
You know, I'd rather accept your expertise regarding your own perceptions of Reality. Adding the 'we' does not add weight to your statements, just error. I can accept youPerspective as valid, for you, in that context. Like everyone else.
Your 'reality' is that which YOU perceive.

We live in a reality where “we” exist.

Again you speak for everyone.
Ignoring that, I'll say that everything exists!

Time exists to us and is as real as anything else is real.

I will accept that that is how you feel and what you believe.

At some level, I am sure” time” has no purpose and does not exist but we are not there.
We are here and here, there is a past, a present and a future. All are significant and purposeful.

It is not uncommon for people to think/believe that the way they personally perceive reality is the same for all. It is not so, but that is the ego for you.

(In answer to your question, nameless,.........we "can" be "everywhere" and when we rise to that level, time will no longer exist or serve us anymore.)

My question was;
How can we ever be anywhere/anywhen else but Here! Now!!?
Has nothing to do with "everywhere" or "rising to levels"...
It was a clear question. At what moment in your life could you say that "I am not Here, I am 'there'?" or "I am in the past!" or "I am in the future!" All we can be is Here, Now!

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Re: How do you stay in the present moment?

Post by nameless on October 8th 2009, 4:31 pm

Vanilla2 wrote:What is meant by "present moment/being present/In the now" does it mean we have come so far, and what we have learnt or achieved we are now contented with, and are happy to remain just so. Or does it refer to what is happening in our life at this very moment, whatever that may be, if this is the case, we have to move on, because life doesnt stand still, life carries on.

Whatever you perceive, you perceive it Now! and Now! and Now!
Percepts = moments! Every unique moment = one unique percept, Now! and Now! and Now!

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Re: How do you stay in the present moment?

Post by Vibe Of Smooth on October 9th 2009, 11:08 am

Perhaps being told the "Now - Now - Now" may point the problem and only will point the problem, it is not easy to understand this term of living in the moment and even harder to express how to live and believe it because surely we all take of business to an extent so therefore we all live in the moment eventually but the press about it is that eventually unless we have a clear and focused mind then we would entangle otherwise eventually to other things in the moment only to draw up a variation for the mind of of the mind's handle, but really, this topic is about the teaching of a 'clear and focused mind' and everything else that is taught about the how to of it is not the better variation then 'the clear and focused mind', and I understand what WhiteShaman is saying here that there is difficulty to living in the 'here in and now' by declaring on new teachings because life carries on automatically - that living in the here and now is a sustain of the present before the past and future much like having the great main value right now before all time and existance.


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Re: How do you stay in the present moment?

Post by WhiteShaman on October 9th 2009, 11:31 am

And yet the now,now,now came from, and are the effect of the past and also will go to and be the cause of the future.
Living in the now, in my reality, is deeply interconnected to the past and the future and deeply interconnected to everything.
That’s all I’m saying.
I know it is believed that they all exist at once, the past, present and future but not in my reality. I live in time and when I am living in the now, I am reminiscing about the past and looking forward to the future so that I can co-create a better now, now, now for you and for me and for all creation.
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Re: How do you stay in the present moment?

Post by Vibe Of Smooth on October 9th 2009, 11:46 am

I am excited sometimes about my past experiences, I have feeling to do better than then so I keep them with me.
I agree that I must live in the now right now but only when it is expedient to do so and I believe humans can be good at that unless they are retarded.
But unless not living in the Now and Now takes us in trouble or prevents good happen then I have no problem with not living on Now at the times.

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Re: How do you stay in the present moment?

Post by WhiteShaman on October 9th 2009, 11:51 am

Love the blue baby Vibe of Smooth! It reminds me of The Blue Buddha!
What is it a picture of?
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Re: How do you stay in the present moment?

Post by Vibe Of Smooth on October 9th 2009, 12:01 pm

Woah, I admire how you have written with authority, I am sure more worth for you is at hand WhiteShaman.

My picture is borrowed - it is my yearn because it is so good to me here that I would have liked to expressed myself fully yearning what I honestly yearn that a Hindu compassionate radiant prow boy of a avatar excites me so much that I feel it is proper for serious attitude to take fold, that's all. My demand for myself is shown fuller now.. So that anything reasonable spiritual I like my own and I am afraid of the unreasonable taking the owns and I know the reasonable taking the owns is more powerful than that so why should I fear, right?

There is room for all of to have - a - share

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Post by WhiteShaman on October 9th 2009, 12:11 pm

I'm having a hard time understanding what you wrote my poetic friend.
Could you please explain another way the significance of the Hindu baby and what it is you yearn?
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Post by Vibe Of Smooth on October 9th 2009, 12:17 pm

Yes. The baby is a good baby. Yes. The baby is a spiritual baby. Yes. The baby is a God baby. Enjoyed so I could not have sought for a better avatar by now. I wanted to impress so that the bargain would do good overall by who I am to all this wherabout and all this interpreting.

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Post by WhiteShaman on October 9th 2009, 12:26 pm

Please forgive me again my friend but I am determined to really understand the meaning of your words.
For some reason, I have a hard time with that.
I am sure that it is nothing more than how you use the english language compared to how I do.
Please reword this statement so I can understand better your meaning:

I wanted to impress so that the bargain would do good overall by who I am to all this wherabout and all this interpreting.

Thank you and I am sorry to be such a pest, but I don’t want to pretend like I understand what you wrote when I don’t.
Peace, Very Happy
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Post by Spirit-Being on October 9th 2009, 5:27 pm

I just wanted to say great Avatar Vibe of Smooth, we add a picture we are drawn to, that speaks many words of who we are & our personality. Ironic that you have added a true Avatar to the picture slot called an Avatar Thumb everything happens for a reason, how Amazing is that.

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Re: How do you stay in the present moment?

Post by nameless on October 9th 2009, 8:05 pm

Spirit-Being wrote:...everything happens for a reason...

That is very debateable, unless, of course, you are strictly refering to your own experiences/life.

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Re: How do you stay in the present moment?

Post by nameless on October 9th 2009, 8:07 pm

Vibe Of Smooth wrote:Perhaps being told the "Now - Now - Now" may point the problem....

Is english not your primary language?

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Re: How do you stay in the present moment?

Post by ekman on July 28th 2011, 1:10 am

To Live in the moment is about embracing this very moment in a Celebrating , Loving, and Grateful way. Life then becomes a gift, a dance, things happen, we get to see beyond the illusion of time and experience life from our Soul Self. Time is real in a way, but it is also an illusion and only life's experiences will bring us to this realization. We all get to wake up. Where we are Now is the sum total of all our past experiences that have occured in the forever Now. Those who are Now living in Love and extend this into the next moment and the next, (we are all living in Love, all existence is Love) will find a future moment to be richer than those who are demonstrating anger or some form of misery in the same way, unless they choose and are brave enough to allow this misery to move them beyond it's veil, it's illusion, and into the Loving Living Now. In the beginning of Now awareness it may be very easy to slip back into the illusion of time but a habit of Now strengthens over time and the awareness of slipping becomes near on automatic so as the Now is embraced in Love and Celebration again, the higher perception of Soul knows we exist because God loves us, that is all we need, we exist within a Divine Universe, what more can we ask for, we learn to trust in God, in the wisdom that moves through us as Soul, and this becomes lived more fully as we embrace the Now, Soul's experience is in the Eternal Now. Joy and Love are our natural state, the Eternal Now experience of Soul connects us to this Joy and Love, connects us to our Soul Self, to who we are. The Now heals our suffering. Monkey mind enters it's death throngs with a living presence of Now.

Thankyou Eckankar for the presence and support of the Living Master and to make use of the tools or gifts you gave, for introducing me to an awareness of the Dream state, the Waking Dreams, the Golden Tongued Wisdom, the Spiritual Exercises, so as to help me and others to move beyond the illusion of time and the ego, to end the suffering, to see and experience the suffering as the gift it is, to transform the suffering into a stepping stone of the Eck, the Divine Spirit, to move beyond sufferings illusion and into the reality of Love, to know who I Am, and the great pleasure recieved in this realization. And thankyou for the guidance towards the comfort that comes in the realization that Life itself is our support and sustenance, and to now have this as a living working reality in my life

Thankyou Eckhart Tolle and 'Power of Now', for helping me in my next step in that past moment where I embraced the Now, for this moment is truly special as i sit here writing about Now, in the Now. You speak the Heart of Eck (Spirit) in a practical, simple way that is of great use to those who are ready for It.

My first post with some pointers towards living effectively in the Now. A lot of really good stuff being shared by people here. Thanks.

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Post by Spirit-Being on July 28th 2011, 1:19 pm

Hello Ekman, Nice to Meet You Wave

I think your post was very helpful, great tips i especially felt drawn to this passage.

Ekman wrote:Thankyou Eckankar for the presence and support of the Living Master and to make use of the tools or gifts you gave, for introducing me to an awareness of the Dream state, the Waking Dreams, the Golden Tongued Wisdom, the Spiritual Exercises, so as to help me and others to move beyond the illusion of time and the ego, to end the suffering, to see and experience the suffering as the gift it is, to transform the suffering into a stepping stone of the Eck, the Divine Spirit, to move beyond sufferings illusion and into the reality of Love, to know who I Am, and the great pleasure recieved in this realization. And thankyou for the guidance towards the comfort that comes in the realization that Life itself is our support and sustenance, and to now have this as a living working reality in my life


I feel its very important for all of us to understand that so many people in our lives have helped us along the way. I feel with this understanjding, Judgemental thoughts go away, and we begin to accept people for who they are, and Love Them Unconditionally. As you stated above Ekman with Absolute Gratitude to Eckankar for the presence and support of the Living Master. You have shown me that being Grateful is very Important. In the Now, i am Grateful for who i am Now & i am Grateful for all i will experience Now.

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