Paradise

White Shaman wrote:
I think it is important to remember also that we don’t “heal” the earth.
We work “with” her and bring about natural healing together in her and in us.

She is a living entity and she is our source of power and strength

So if I understand right---
When our human bodies get hurt, our nature is to heal ourselves. For example a fever is the way our bodies fight infection. Our bodies naturally try to destroy anything that is not normal or natural to our bodies, right??

So then White Shaman, are you saying that if we stop destroying the Earth, she will then start to heal herself?? Because that is her natural instinct too?? (Trying to wrap my human brain around a spiritual thought)

CanadianMind wrote:
A collective concousness living in fear is the world we live in now.

So imagine the opposite; a collective conciousness living in love. THats what the world has been missing fer 1000 years, mabey more.

I think the Earth can feel our negative thoughts, feelings, and actions.

So what would life really be like, if there was a great shift and everyone lived their lives in love. How beautiful would the Earth respond to that love.

Maybe the paradise is in our consciousness. Because we can manifest outwards what we feel, and think inside.

Vanilla2 wrote:
we have been given just the one earth to live on, and just the one chance to do with it as we will,

I have a silly question -- But what if our chance with this Earth isn't over??

What is we've discovered the error in our ways -- just in time to heal ourselves and help her heal..

Spirit Being -- Thank you for starting this thread. It is truly enlightening.
White Shaman -- You've opened the Vortex to a fascinating outlook. I shall meditate on this!!!

Its very odd how you used the term feaver. Only becasue the weather is getting odd, warm in some places, cold in some places... mabey shes trying to "fight the infection"?? Now thats an eye opening analogy SD! OUr reality is based on our thoughts, which in turn effects the earth and vice versa.

Our conciousness truely effects the people and things around us, like you said the world can feel out emotions...... ( spirit dawn, watch a movie called awakening to zero point by gregg braden, its on you tune, i think youll like it alot!) IF this is what the world is like with negative emotions, think of what the total opposite would do!!!!

I too would like to thank spirit being for starting this, as well as you all for asking such great questions!!! If you dont ask questions you will get no answewrs!!!!!!!!

Whiteshaman following along with your Idea, assuming this was paradise in the first place, which it might well have been, quote: you are suggesting it is possible to restore her, what I am saying is will we be granted that chance to restore her, or have we only ever had that one chance, which now has been wasted and abused. In other words, even if we wanted to restore her and all work together for this goal, I dont believe we have that option. Gods plan for us was one chance to care for and look after this earth, will he grant us another chance to put right.

We wouldnt be able to "restore her" as you put it. IT would be going back in time, which in that way i impossible. But we can "bring about a new golden age" a new age of peace and prosperity. Which would be different then it was before. THere is almost no way around us using mother earth bounty. But there is a big difference then taking with no regard, and replenishing and give thanks. Because of people the planet will never be the same. IT wouldnt be a restoring as much as a rebirthing. If you used the term rebirth instead restore it might make a bit more sence.

I am in no way meaning to upset you vanilla at all or disrespect your beliefs in any way. I just personaly think that there can and will be an awakening and a rebirth of the race and planet. So im sorry if i disrespect you or you thoughts in any way. And i hope that we all get to live to see the day to see if what we all think will happen, happens becasue only then will we truely know who is right......

Not at all Canadainmind there is no disrespect at all, I go along with the re-birth theory, I like that one, yes that can be established, it could never be re-stored, I think you will find that it was Whiteshaman who used the word restore, I only used that word to quote him..let me turn back the page and find his quote, if I may.

Found it, quoting Whiteshaman: "Those of us who are destined to restore the earth will teach the world how to restore her."

Lesson for WhiteShaman…..we are co-creating a new earth, not restoring her to an old condition. I couldn’t agree more!
I stand corrected..thank you Vanilla and Jesse!
Peace,
WhiteShaman

should have read back a bit more :S sorry once again:S A very goo discussion none the less...

Serenity - Dawn wrote:

White Shaman wrote:
I think it is important to remember also that we don’t “heal” the earth.
We work “with” her and bring about natural healing together in her and in us.

She is a living entity and she is our source of power and strength

So if I understand right---
When our human bodies get hurt, our nature is to heal ourselves. For example a fever is the way our bodies fight infection. Our bodies naturally try to destroy anything that is not normal or natural to our bodies, right??

So then White Shaman, are you saying that if we stop destroying the Earth, she will then start to heal herself?? Because that is her natural instinct too?? (Trying to wrap my human brain around a spiritual thought)

White Shaman -- You've opened the Vortex to a fascinating outlook. I shall meditate on this!!!

Hi Serenity-Dawn,
What I was really trying to point out is that I think it is deceieving to view ourselves as "caretakers" of the earth, I don't see us as the almighty humans in charge of what happens to her. I feel a better way to view this relationship we have with mother earth is that we are her brothers and sisters and we work together to bring harmony and healing to each other.
You statements above add to what I am saying and illustrate it well. We work together by treating her with respect and stop polluting her and she in turn heals herself.
That is actually what I was referring to when I said "restore". Living right allowing her to restore to her natural beauty, unpolluted and unstained.
Peace,
WhiteShaman

White Shaman wrote:
Living right allowing her to restore to her natural beauty, unpolluted and unstained.

I agree with your thoughts WhiteShaman.
The Humans species has lost our connection to Earth and Nature!
And because of that, I believe that Earth has lost something too!
So I definately believe that a restoration is needed...

But I also believe that it's never too late to start the healing process.....

Canadian Mind wrote:
spirit dawn, watch a movie called awakening to zero point by gregg braden, its on you tune, i think youll like it alot!) IF this is what the world is like with negative emotions, think of what the total opposite would do.

What's the movie called? Awakenings?

Spirit-Being wrote:

Shambhala is believed to be a Mythical Kingdon hidden somewhere in Tibet.



I do believe that paradise exists maybe the knowledge of this paradise is within all of us.

I believe you are correct!